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get ready panier your radio go through

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welcome welcome everybody tonight is

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Sunday march first 2015 I consider this

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the first day spring I don't know what

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you think but that's how I look at it

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welcome to paying radio tonight we have

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a great guest tonight we have marks a

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ski cryptozoologist and Bigfoot

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researcher coming on in about ten

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minutes but I'm here with my sidekick

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mr. ken storage are also a UFO

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researcher cattle not cattle mutilations

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I got to get this right cat animal

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harvest animal harvesting there we go

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there we go well welcome to the show Ken

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hey thanks for having me on and welcome

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everybody we should have an interesting

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interesting show and MJ you could not

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tell that it was spring where I live

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okay it's like the dead of winter you

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know 14 degrees and six and a half

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inches of snow on the ground windchill

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factor is about a minus two you guys

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have more snow than we have on the

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ground we got about four inches we had a

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little meltdown today too that's

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unbelievable because you know that area

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has been getting hammered over the

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winter i mean in the northeast at least

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mmm exactly i'd like to do a day like

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today I'll us here we lost Leonard Nimoy

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this this week in like a few days ago

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very of you know I grew up watching Star

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Trek but kind of a big loss in my early

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even watched an episode in his honor the

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other night it was the awakening of cond

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during episode oh yeah I was wet forgot

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it was called the seed that the planted

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seed but they woke up khong con from the

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ship and as all the Trekkies know later

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on the wrath of khan was a movie in the

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80s and one of my favorite shows of Star

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Trek was the trouble with tribbles oh

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yeah I love that show vid the Klingons

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via they got hammered band with the

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tribbles aid it was just a good good

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series it was I mean it was it was

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before its time like you said we've

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we've seen signs of the futures with the

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cell phones the the tablets just just

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crazy that Gene Roddenberry knew knew

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about this technology back then and

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we're using it today well and not only

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that but the discussion on warp

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drive and and then and traveling faster

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than the speed of light I mean all of

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that is really coming into into its own

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i mean i think that that we if we don't

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kill the human race off we'll be able to

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achieve interplanetary travel I think

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it's fair I that's doable in fact let's

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put it this way i'm jay somebody has

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already figured it out because someone's

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coming here yeah yeah actly you got that

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right definitely so you know there is a

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way to navigate among the stars here in

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Star Trek and and Leonard Nimoy I mean

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how could you not be fascinated with

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Spock he he hit that one out of the

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ballpark that was his year that was his

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character and and it was made for

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Leonard Nimoy it sure was so can you

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have any show notes tonight to anybody

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well I am I know George and Patti are

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listening and dug in Missouri Rosemarie

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Jessup in England Rosie how you do a

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little girl and I think Marilyn and dick

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may be tuned in tonight down in Oklahoma

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City and a little bit warmer than I am

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I'm jealous but yeah I want to say howdy

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to all those folks and Oliver are the

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other listeners yeah hi folks yeah and I

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got a couple shuttles from last week got

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some Leyland's where we have martina

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listening in Munich Germany also way

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and we got hail Caden in the state of

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Maine us saying we got our longtime

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listener who checked in in duluth

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minnesota right across the river here

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i'm over in wisconsin big packer viking

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rival you know deborah thanks for

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listening Deborah would appreciate you

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and the support so I will go through a

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there's more going on out there than

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so now can did you uh did you have an

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episode on TV you just did was it a few

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weeks ago where you on TV well you know

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they they may be in the production

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company said that they were going to air

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a show I think they were calling it true

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supernatural or true something I don't

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remember exactly but it had to do with

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the Betty cash oh yeah landrum yeah uh

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incident and then what occurred up there

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in narrows Creek and western

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Pennsylvania when I had the encounter of

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that creature and so they did a show on

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end it was supposed to air the 21st and

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the 28th to februari but on the

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destination channel i think it was and

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he turns out that who did it was on that

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particular night instead of having that

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or something i'm not sure exactly but it

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didn't appear let's put it that way okay

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yeah but it'll be coming that's pretty

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good that's pretty cool though let me

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nets that's a your encounter uh you know

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probably talk we can talk to that about

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Marquis had his own account encounters

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tonight our guest is Mark's ASCII he

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looking forward to that yeah Bigfoot

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Bigfoot researcher can I've had them on

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before a probably about a year and a

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half ago but very interesting fellow he

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really really digs into the research and

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you know he's battling a lot of negative

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entities out there with this research

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you know on the in all with with every

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but you know with true seekers people

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boots to the ground there's a lot of

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negative entities out there trying to

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stop what even what you're doing and

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even what this networks about well and

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and I I think that there is a and this

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is strictly my opinion but I think there

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is a certain element

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within the societal makeup of this

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planet that does not want the facts and

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the truth to be out there for whatever

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for whatever reason that you know either

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by it because of power because of

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control I don't know but it seems like

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an awful lot of roadblocks are

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intentionally thrown up when you ask

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specific questions concerning this topic

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you know you run into a lot of

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roadblocks you do and then I mean took a

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little drive down to bloomington

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minnesota for a conference and looking

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up in the skies cannon all you see is

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the the chemtrail clouds back and forth

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i mean i mean there's something else

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that we're not told about it just i mean

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basically clear day but you can see the

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lines just zigzag checkerboard on many

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occasion SAT and watch not only here in

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northeast Oklahoma but even out in a

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desert environment like the San Luis

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fifteen percent humidity okay so you

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humidity is somewhere between sixty and

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seventy percent at times and I've seen

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planes fly over in the San Luis Valley a

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Colorado on a clear crystal blue day and

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an hour and 20 minutes later there's

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this haze all over the and you see this

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checkerboard pattern yes okay and you

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know somebody tries to tell me all those

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are water droplets from condensation on

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the plane's engines really the

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atmosphere is so dry that those water

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droplets would dissipate in a matter of

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minutes oh yeah okay I don't give a damn

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if it is 32 below zero at 30,000 feet

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and you got this hot engine yeah it's

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going to have condensation and you're

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going to see you know contrails but when

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you sit there and watch this

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checkerboard pattern and develop and

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then it spreads and and gets Horizon to

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cloudy day yeah I mean it's like wait a

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right on trails don't do that definitely

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line here this will take me a second

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let's see this this is going to be good

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show what we'll do is a going to have

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marca tell people about himself and how

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he got into the research here let me get

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them there is so we'll be calling mark

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via his phone tonight and as usual this

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is live and this is raw so we're calling

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mark and hopefully I embedded that phone

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number right and skype there can I've

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done that before I call the stranger as

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long as it's not a 900 number i think

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we'll be okay yeah hello mark zansky

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this is MJ and ken storage are you with

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us I am with you guys how are you I'm

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doing very good mark it's been quite a

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while since I had Gian yeah it's been

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well your hair about a year and a half

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or so so you've probably been busy uh

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could you fill our listeners in on your

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background a little bit and tell our

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listeners what you would you do

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absolutely I've been in cryptozoology

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and active cryptozoologist looking into

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unverified species for about 15 to 16

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years almost now and about 10 of that

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has been primarily focused on the

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unknown species of human type primate

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that everybody calls Bigfoot really it

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depends on where you're at but there's a

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bunch of names for it but the bottom

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line is that that's been my primary

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focus for about 10 years now they're

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very cool not what got you interested in

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this mark I had to be a story behind

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this yeah just growing up down here in

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Florida I mean I I'm from Youngstown

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Ohio and we used to go to PA a lot just

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across the border it's the arms towns in

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northeastern

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ohio about 60 70 miles from pittsburgh

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but growing up up there you would hear

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stories my whole family all hunted and

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you know people who would hunt regularly

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that were friends of the family would

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come back with stories from PA up in the

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mountains and but we moved to Florida

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and in the late 70s and that's when you

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know it really became a part of my life

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because the culture down here was was

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you know a rural country culture wasn't

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very developed here in Palm Beach County

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yet so there was a lot of swamp and and

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you know we you know still had been

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developing they actually started to

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develop Florida from the coastlines in

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word and so that those areas when you

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got ten miles from the coast in Palm

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Beach County back in 79 80 81 you were

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in the force in the jungle in the swamp

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I mean it's you know it's subtropical

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down here it's dropping so you know and

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and with it being undeveloped or slowly

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being developed you'd have your ranches

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and in your your larger pieces of of

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undeveloped swatches of land and you

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know humans started to move into these

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areas and expand from the coastline and

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Wes and we were encroaching on their

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territory that's the bottom line the

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reports were coming from the days that I

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moved before the very first week that

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I've moved here when I was I think 11 I

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started to hear reports horses being

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bald Reese officers you know chasing

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them around their properties it was a

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big deal down here it's always been a

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big deal here I had a close friend at 15

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that he and his mother actually had one

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chased them you know out of the area

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that they were in so you know it's

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always been a part of my life down here

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you know I said I grew up in in palm

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beach county in a country setting in the

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early days and it just took off from

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there you know that's that's awesome I

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mean Florida is very famous for the the

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so-called skunk ape so

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that's probably something you've

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researched but you've done a little

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research around the world to am I

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correct mark yeah I mean I traveled um

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you know my family basically my brother

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is uh is a professional Marlin captain

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fishing captain and he's traveled all

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over planet Earth I mean he's fished

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every ocean fishing he's been to several

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different countries and continents by I

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pretty much stayed at home I did a lot

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of traveling you know it back and forth

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to the Bahamas and so on but as far as

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my cryptid research it's been mostly

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interviews I have interview people on

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several different continents mm-hmm

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including great English in Great Britain

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and you know I can tell you the fun you

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know this is something that's not unique

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to to North America people have the

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exact same eyewitnesses from every

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single place that I've ever interviewed

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South America Australia Great Britain's

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and a couple of places in Europe all

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have the exact same traumatic response

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to what they've experienced and it's

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very similar to what i would i would say

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is very similar to someone who's had a

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UFO sighting but something very

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significant it's a little more

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significant because i think with the

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Bigfoot thing because most like UFO

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sightings they tend to be from a greater

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distance but with the Bigfoot thing if

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you're seeing it it's within eyeshot you

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know and and I've interview a lot of

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people who actually have you know I've

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been within feet of one of these guys

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and now at this point actually since the

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last time I was on your show now I have

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become an eyewitness and have

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experienced the exact same psychological

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trauma of having something like this

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happened and you know so mean the bottom

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line is is you know my experiences with

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interviewing eyewitnesses and and you

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know talking to them and depth about you

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know how they feel about it it's one

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thing to take the encounter you know the

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the entire counter encounter down and

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what they saw but a lot of what really

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goes on with eyewitnesses hasn't really

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been covered and there's there's a lot

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of sight

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logical trauma involved with this

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because the bottom line is is the way

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the subject has been presented to the

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people of you know the United States

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early the people the world but I focus

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you know primarily on the u.s. way it's

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been presented to us you know really

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it's not the way it actually is in

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reality the way it is in reality is much

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more traumatic having experienced it

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myself I now understand you know from

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watching the shows and the programming

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the cultural you know program the mass

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program that you know the messages that

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go into this we perceive the subject

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very differently than it actually really

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is you know the sensationalism that goes

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along with it is one aspect of it but

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there's there's an element of twisting

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the facts of what eyewitnesses are

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clearly describing that's you know

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viewable in the programming and you

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really really it's difficult for someone

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to come become aware of all this unless

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they've actually seen it for themselves

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and variably when I interview

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eyewitnesses regardless of what

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continent they were on they described a

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very human-like ty beanie they didn't

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describe a nonhuman primate they were

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very clear in their descriptions that

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said worse you know human features and

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among particularly in their facial

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features mark you you as far as what

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little I know about whatever critter is

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out there in the woods you said

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something that I absolutely 110% believe

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because I experienced myself and that I

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saw more human qualities in this

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creature then in fact I didn't see

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anything that suggested to me ape not

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the way and I say he I don't know the

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gender but he didn't run like an eighth

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didn't look like an eighth and didn't

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act like an ape ya know that's including

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my sighting and you know I mean I've

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never actually interviewed a single

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eyewitness that has said that they you

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know

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eight and including people who got

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really really close to where it was just

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outside their tent or it trashed their

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encampment period and they were forced

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out of the area and all you know

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multiple eyewitnesses getting look at it

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none of those people now we're going

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within a we're talking about it we're

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generalizing the subject of Bigfoot but

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to take you to a fire point I have come

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to the conclusion especially here in the

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state of Florida there are at least

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three different types or subspecies

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within this species that we call Bigfoot

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or and I don't even use the term skunk

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ape and I frown on that usage because it

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really is uh it changes the perspective

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of what we're seeing and so and you know

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here's here's the thing when I had been

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on your show the last time I had I was

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in the middle of an investigation into

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semiotics and programming and how I had

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suspected them there were some things

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going on within the mass cultural

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programming that we all view on this

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particular subject the Bigfoots

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objection what I found in what I had

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uncovered through my investigation was

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that there is a very real campaign of

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dehumanization going on about this

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subject within subject within the

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program that we view and particularly

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any of the programming that you can view

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within or on the subject that mainstream

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science participation is in in that that

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programming and and it's typically when

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evolutionary science is involved and

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they are definitely skewing twisting and

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in Miss representing what we

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eyewitnesses are saying now you say you

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didn't see any any eight features

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neither die it did not it did not you

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know what I saw what I saw it was every

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bit the closest thing that I can come to

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was that it was pre human or but it was

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definitely human priming it was not

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non-human primate not even close the

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thing had a few

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they're a human head of hair always when

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we break me out you know mark I was uh

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within 12 feet and it was a spontaneous

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sudden encounter and in this creature

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okay I had a through the UFO Oklahoma

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you a full paranormal team you can go

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there and see a sketch and the footprint

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that was casted but I had a forensic

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artist sketch what I saw and you can

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look at that sky think I kind of pissed

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her off a little bit because she asked

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me she goes on a scale of 1 to 10 what

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do you think and I said I got nine

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ninety-five percent accurate and she

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goes what would it take and I said I

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don't know how to explain it to you I

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couldn't explain the look in the eyes I

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said you didn't capture that but I said

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all the facial features I said you're

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spot-on you know and what we call it

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difficult for the cause I've had artists

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right repeatedly not to recreate what I

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saw and what what everyone is missing

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and what this programming is preventing

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the general public from seeing and

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really it's keeping its keeping the

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public from realizing the importance of

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the discovery period because if the

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public continues to think of this thing

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is some type of ape then it's just an

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animal and it really isn't all that

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important but if the public understands

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what we're seeing which in the

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representations that that I've gotten

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from eyewitnesses and my own and what

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you're clearly describing is

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intelligence that's what the RS had

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trouble capturing is that I'm feeling

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the intelligence the human intelligence

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the smart and I've had a couple of

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encounters where I didn't see it but

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I've been literally emotionally mocked

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by a gigantic Harry human toy being it

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here in the state of Florida to where I

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actually felt embarrassed that I woke

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this guy up I mean I don't even you like

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I mean I couldn't even believe it like I

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was feeling like it was almost as if you

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know somebody was passed out and I woke

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them up and they

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turn around and got slick with me you

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know oh yeah yeah hey Mark and one of

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the and I'm by no means have anywhere

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near the knowledge and expertise that

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you how I I'm lucky I can spell Bigfoot

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okay I just don't have the the the

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knowledge but what you have said about

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intelligence and I gotta ask this here

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about two weeks ago I was telling

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somebody what happened to me and they

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said well can if this creature really

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exists how come we don't find any bodies

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of it and my reply is well you know I'm

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a hunter I hunt deer and elk and very

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not very often in fact it's a rarity

538
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:28,500
that you come across the carcass of a

539
00:24:33,710 --> 00:24:30,809
dead animal in the woods okay they just

540
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:33,720
don't last very long but my other point

541
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:36,210
is is that if we're right and i think we

542
00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:38,010
are you're dealing with intelligence

543
00:24:45,530 --> 00:24:41,910
they may bury their dead okay I mean we

544
00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:45,540
do yeah well you know I mean I think

545
00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:47,700
that you know for us to have

546
00:24:53,060 --> 00:24:49,710
conversations about that is one thing

547
00:24:54,919 --> 00:24:53,070
it's completely different to try to

548
00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:54,929
convince the public who has difficulty

549
00:24:59,480 --> 00:24:56,760
specifically because of the programming

550
00:25:01,100 --> 00:24:59,490
that they viewed and received and the

551
00:25:02,690 --> 00:25:01,110
belief system that they developed on the

552
00:25:05,299 --> 00:25:02,700
subject to get them to listen to

553
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:05,309
something regarding that I mean you know

554
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:06,809
what you saw you know what you saw had

555
00:25:10,250 --> 00:25:08,970
intelligence I know what I saw and I got

556
00:25:12,140 --> 00:25:10,260
a good look at him and he looked at me

557
00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:12,150
more importantly and I'm sure you had

558
00:25:18,020 --> 00:25:15,120
the same situation I did not see a

559
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:18,030
single feature that would be uneven

560
00:25:22,970 --> 00:25:19,679
primary this thing was pre-human in

561
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:22,980
every way in gigantic and not only that

562
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:26,130
but it was scary and you know and not

563
00:25:30,770 --> 00:25:28,050
only that but the physical ability that

564
00:25:33,980 --> 00:25:30,780
I witnessed because what if happened to

565
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:33,990
my encounter was I've never even heard

566
00:25:37,610 --> 00:25:35,850
and I've interviewed by witnesses all

567
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:37,620
over the place and I gotta tell you you

568
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:39,840
know what I witnessed we weren't even

569
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,730
looking I was teaching somebody how to

570
00:25:45,650 --> 00:25:43,200
track that day I was doing a spot of

571
00:25:47,330 --> 00:25:45,660
fishing in an area I thought there's no

572
00:25:49,370 --> 00:25:47,340
way we're ever going to see this thing

573
00:25:52,940 --> 00:25:49,380
it's there's no way there's so many

574
00:25:54,590 --> 00:25:52,950
people honking and there was a swamp

575
00:25:57,710 --> 00:25:54,600
buggy within a thousand yards of us

576
00:25:59,300 --> 00:25:57,720
firing off shotguns and we had we had

577
00:26:01,250 --> 00:25:59,310
just left an area because we heard

578
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:01,260
buckshot skipping through the bushes

579
00:26:05,570 --> 00:26:03,360
where we were at I said you know we need

580
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:05,580
clear this area buddy you know so we

581
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:07,110
went back to the car and drove down

582
00:26:10,340 --> 00:26:08,510
further and got out of the water

583
00:26:11,450 --> 00:26:10,350
basically because we were in the swamp

584
00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:11,460
and we were looking for some higher

585
00:26:16,250 --> 00:26:14,190
ground and by the time we got to where

586
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:16,260
we found high ground it was about an

587
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:19,770
eighth of a mile farther north we parked

588
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:21,570
a car and by that time we got out the

589
00:26:25,340 --> 00:26:24,090
swamp buggy had made it almost cuz they

590
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:25,350
were headed in the same direction we

591
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:27,840
were almost to where we were we had just

592
00:26:32,150 --> 00:26:29,730
gotten out of the car and we were on a

593
00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:32,160
trail that was about 20 feet wide and

594
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:33,929
there was bushes on both sides of it 12

595
00:26:38,419 --> 00:26:36,090
15 feet high with pine trees in a mitten

596
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:38,429
60-footers you know but their swamp on

597
00:26:42,919 --> 00:26:40,110
both sides of it in the trail itself

598
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:42,929
actually runs from the beach to Lake

599
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:44,850
Okeechobee all the way west until ago

600
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:47,970
Cho Vees 60 70 maybe 80 miles total but

601
00:26:51,169 --> 00:26:49,650
it cuts through a forest corridor that

602
00:26:54,110 --> 00:26:51,179
there's been hundreds of sightings in

603
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:54,120
but I wasn't expecting this and he was

604
00:26:58,270 --> 00:26:56,610
adjusting his equipment and we had just

605
00:27:01,700 --> 00:26:58,280
got on the trail you could see the car

606
00:27:04,220 --> 00:27:01,710
when I look back and I just happen to

607
00:27:06,289 --> 00:27:04,230
hear you know I was he was failing with

608
00:27:09,530 --> 00:27:06,299
his equipment my research partner that I

609
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:09,540
was training and I heard the guns going

610
00:27:13,940 --> 00:27:11,610
off and they were closed man they were

611
00:27:16,610 --> 00:27:13,950
winning a thousand yards of us bow and

612
00:27:20,150 --> 00:27:16,620
shotguns off and i looked up because i

613
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:20,160
was they were so close it shocked me now

614
00:27:27,860 --> 00:27:24,690
when I looked up I see this thing flying

615
00:27:31,820 --> 00:27:27,870
across the trail where he had cleared by

616
00:27:34,159 --> 00:27:31,830
27 to 30 foot jump and he was coming

617
00:27:36,140 --> 00:27:34,169
down and he was five to six feet off the

618
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:36,150
ground he landed on the trail he cleared

619
00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:38,010
the 20 foot trail but the ark he was

620
00:27:43,610 --> 00:27:41,190
jumping from was like he jumped 10 15

621
00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:43,620
feet from out in that swamp he landed

622
00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:46,950
without a stutter and turned and pulled

623
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:49,590
up palm frond down and looked at me and

624
00:27:54,590 --> 00:27:51,690
I was like in a complete state of shock

625
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:54,600
because first of all I take reports down

626
00:28:00,530 --> 00:27:57,330
in here all the time and in a vault he's

627
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:00,540
been black or red or burgundy girl you

628
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:02,490
know that that rust colored hair or

629
00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:05,370
genlack including my son who's seen one

630
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:08,100
it was jet black and gigantic beastly

631
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:10,710
huge but I've never heard of I've never

632
00:28:16,580 --> 00:28:13,520
taken a report of one with long shaggy

633
00:28:17,299 --> 00:28:16,590
silver gray shiny hair all over his body

634
00:28:19,129 --> 00:28:17,309
in

635
00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:19,139
not let alone the human head of hair he

636
00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:22,590
had perfect long straight hair parted in

637
00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:25,769
the middle any he was know by now he had

638
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:28,769
like a bluish grayish whitish skin and

639
00:28:32,269 --> 00:28:30,690
it was I was in a complete state of

640
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:32,279
shock and I grabbed my partner looked

641
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:33,919
away for a hundredth of a second after

642
00:28:37,999 --> 00:28:36,480
he and I had stared at each other for a

643
00:28:41,509 --> 00:28:38,009
second he pulled that palm frond down

644
00:28:43,220 --> 00:28:41,519
and shot me a frown and yet you know in

645
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:43,230
the face I thought it was unbelievable

646
00:28:47,659 --> 00:28:45,450
it was you know 939 15 in the morning

647
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:47,669
something like that but when I look back

648
00:28:53,629 --> 00:28:50,610
up he was gone and the branch was moving

649
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:53,639
the palm frond but what I got out of

650
00:28:59,570 --> 00:28:56,970
that I mean in hindsight in reviewing

651
00:29:02,659 --> 00:28:59,580
everything was first of all we we are

652
00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:02,669
not being told at what's going on here

653
00:29:07,940 --> 00:29:04,769
there's absolutely no doubt about it

654
00:29:09,139 --> 00:29:07,950
when I saw what I saw I knew that what

655
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:09,149
we were learning and what we were

656
00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:11,039
hearing from science about the species

657
00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:13,769
and and the narration that we hear on

658
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:16,289
these shows was way off base way off

659
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:18,809
base and I kind of knew that anyway

660
00:29:22,820 --> 00:29:20,970
because of interviewing eyewitnesses but

661
00:29:25,159 --> 00:29:22,830
not to the level i knew now you know

662
00:29:27,889 --> 00:29:25,169
right and it's that's when my real

663
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:27,899
research took off in uh you know I mean

664
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:30,779
listen I I you know I've been harassed

665
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:34,529
on so many levels over this by mark mark

666
00:29:38,690 --> 00:29:36,450
mark nice and I don't even know who

667
00:29:40,430 --> 00:29:38,700
these people are the mark doin mark

668
00:29:41,810 --> 00:29:40,440
we've hit our mark we've hit our break

669
00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:41,820
so we'll talk can we talk about the

670
00:29:46,129 --> 00:29:43,919
harassment after the break I know I know

671
00:29:48,369 --> 00:29:46,139
you've done okay guys hang in there

672
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:48,379
we're talking to Mark's ascii about his

673
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:51,600
cryptozoology research arm hang in there

674
00:29:55,369 --> 00:29:53,490
we'll be right back with some more

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00:30:09,400 --> 00:29:55,379
awesome stories and some great info from

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726
00:33:18,850 --> 00:33:16,580
he's had a lot of things happen since

727
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:18,860
our last show so we were talking a

728
00:33:22,810 --> 00:33:20,809
little bit on break can and I and Mark

729
00:33:24,250 --> 00:33:22,820
about the movements of this creature so

730
00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:24,260
mark what what did you compare the

731
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:29,950
movements of this creature to well um I

732
00:33:35,169 --> 00:33:33,289
you know I look at its it's interesting

733
00:33:39,130 --> 00:33:35,179
because that I was in a state of shock

734
00:33:41,950 --> 00:33:39,140
for a while um you know I mean I was

735
00:33:44,740 --> 00:33:41,960
like I was in a state of shock period

736
00:33:46,029 --> 00:33:44,750
and then I started to think about all

737
00:33:48,970 --> 00:33:46,039
the things that I'd heard early years

738
00:33:51,820 --> 00:33:48,980
but I had never heard about anything

739
00:33:54,580 --> 00:33:51,830
like this as far as even from hunters

740
00:33:56,980 --> 00:33:54,590
that had seen them you know move I've

741
00:33:59,770 --> 00:33:56,990
heard you know that they move with you

742
00:34:02,110 --> 00:33:59,780
know effortlessly but do what I saw was

743
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:02,120
completely different I in comparison to

744
00:34:06,190 --> 00:34:04,730
what I saw MJ I would say that the

745
00:34:09,220 --> 00:34:06,200
closest comparison or I've done this

746
00:34:13,180 --> 00:34:09,230
before I write a blog and you know in an

747
00:34:15,580 --> 00:34:13,190
explanation for what a lot of people are

748
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:15,590
singing about how they have these

749
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:17,450
special abilities and they can disappear

750
00:34:20,919 --> 00:34:18,800
at will and all the stuff and I've never

751
00:34:23,710 --> 00:34:20,929
witnessed that and I don't preclude that

752
00:34:26,260 --> 00:34:23,720
because certain people may say that you

753
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:26,270
know they've witnessed these things you

754
00:34:31,149 --> 00:34:28,129
know I would never question someone

755
00:34:32,930 --> 00:34:31,159
else's experience but i never have

756
00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:32,940
witnessed that what i witnessed

757
00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:35,760
is a perfect explanation for why we find

758
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:39,240
single anomalous tracks and I continue

759
00:34:43,879 --> 00:34:41,490
to find the single anomalous Traxler

760
00:34:47,149 --> 00:34:43,889
you're walking along and you're in a

761
00:34:49,399 --> 00:34:47,159
heavy substrate that is very very dense

762
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:49,409
and you don't leave a track i went to

763
00:34:55,339 --> 00:34:52,050
others over 200 pounds and I'm not a

764
00:34:57,770 --> 00:34:55,349
small guy and my my boot will not leave

765
00:35:00,980 --> 00:34:57,780
a track where I'll find attractive to

766
00:35:03,410 --> 00:35:00,990
half-inch deep in 60 inches mom and I

767
00:35:05,450 --> 00:35:03,420
try to you know at first you know before

768
00:35:08,359 --> 00:35:05,460
I had my encounter I didn't understand

769
00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:08,369
what was going on so I had a tendency to

770
00:35:11,569 --> 00:35:09,750
start questioning whether or not you

771
00:35:13,550 --> 00:35:11,579
know this guy fell on the sky landed

772
00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:13,560
here and then just like disappeared

773
00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:15,480
because there's one track and there's no

774
00:35:20,660 --> 00:35:18,240
other track but now I understand because

775
00:35:23,260 --> 00:35:20,670
of what I saw that their physical

776
00:35:26,930 --> 00:35:23,270
morphology the build that they have

777
00:35:28,910 --> 00:35:26,940
gives them the ability to do what I did

778
00:35:31,010 --> 00:35:28,920
witness I mean there's no way that I

779
00:35:32,839 --> 00:35:31,020
would ever came to this conclusion about

780
00:35:35,809 --> 00:35:32,849
this without having seen it because I

781
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:35,819
would not have believed it but I compare

782
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:39,450
what I saw to an NFL football player I

783
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:41,609
know that we just had a brief discussion

784
00:35:47,390 --> 00:35:45,089
about this you know at the break but I

785
00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:47,400
always tell people listen you know how

786
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:50,280
Barry Sanders was a small guy really

787
00:35:55,099 --> 00:35:52,530
really heavily built but he could do

788
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:55,109
things that you know had never been done

789
00:36:00,260 --> 00:35:57,810
by a back in the NFL he could run at the

790
00:36:03,050 --> 00:36:00,270
line quarterback at handing the football

791
00:36:04,490 --> 00:36:03,060
and he could accelerate before he even

792
00:36:06,740 --> 00:36:04,500
got that football but once he got a

793
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,750
football he could accelerate to 15 miles

794
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:08,640
an hour before he even got to the line

795
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:11,970
and then plan his right foot and bound

796
00:36:18,530 --> 00:36:14,970
off of his right foot to the left edge

797
00:36:21,140 --> 00:36:18,540
nine or ten feet away and hit with his

798
00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:21,150
left foot and then peel off 15 20 yards

799
00:36:26,859 --> 00:36:24,230
from the end and he's a little guy but

800
00:36:29,329 --> 00:36:26,869
the morphology that I witnessed

801
00:36:31,099 --> 00:36:29,339
correlates to that type of ability this

802
00:36:33,710 --> 00:36:31,109
guy was seven and a half feet tall at

803
00:36:37,010 --> 00:36:33,720
least and he was built like a Greek god

804
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:37,020
man and you know what I witnessed those

805
00:36:41,540 --> 00:36:38,880
with that you know when people talk

806
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:41,550
about how you know it's difficult to

807
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:44,130
comprehend that that happens and really

808
00:36:46,820 --> 00:36:46,650
my perspective immedia immediately went

809
00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:46,830
to

810
00:36:50,740 --> 00:36:48,990
science fiction movie this thing moves

811
00:36:55,730 --> 00:36:50,750
like something you would see in

812
00:36:58,220 --> 00:36:55,740
animation uh you know a science-fiction

813
00:37:00,170 --> 00:36:58,230
monster now I hate that use that

814
00:37:03,230 --> 00:37:00,180
comparison because it was absolutely of

815
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:03,240
the human type of being but the

816
00:37:11,150 --> 00:37:08,160
movements were so superhuman and it's

817
00:37:14,180 --> 00:37:11,160
it's definitely it definitely correlates

818
00:37:17,180 --> 00:37:14,190
to the musculature which obviously is a

819
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,190
direct development of the bones

820
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:19,680
themselves so I look at this being as

821
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:23,850
being exactly what it built to be and I

822
00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:26,490
could tell you that what I saw I mean I

823
00:37:30,350 --> 00:37:28,590
I always somebody said well you know

824
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:30,360
he's scared and I thought you know

825
00:37:35,390 --> 00:37:32,640
absolutely and this thing could have

826
00:37:38,750 --> 00:37:35,400
been on me and my hiking partner in four

827
00:37:40,580 --> 00:37:38,760
seconds from 70 yards away and I have no

828
00:37:42,740 --> 00:37:40,590
doubt among and it probably could have

829
00:37:45,290 --> 00:37:42,750
pulled my arms off and beat him to death

830
00:37:47,810 --> 00:37:45,300
with my arms looks like i have no doubt

831
00:37:51,380 --> 00:37:47,820
about that and you know i'm in this

832
00:37:54,890 --> 00:37:51,390
research area constantly and to this day

833
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:54,900
I was out there today for some was up 10

834
00:38:00,560 --> 00:37:58,410
miles from my house and you know I found

835
00:38:02,450 --> 00:38:00,570
a bunch of tracks out there today we've

836
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:02,460
been finding tracks consistently they're

837
00:38:08,270 --> 00:38:05,130
all the same size and it's him it's him

838
00:38:11,450 --> 00:38:08,280
I actually interviewed a guy that I work

839
00:38:16,430 --> 00:38:11,460
with who I had no idea goes into this

840
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:16,440
area to fish and he flat-out told me you

841
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:18,570
know listen we started talking about

842
00:38:22,970 --> 00:38:20,130
fishing out there which is the original

843
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:22,980
reason why I went into this area and he

844
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:24,240
says all he had four shots are all the

845
00:38:29,450 --> 00:38:27,090
time and he and then he kind of you know

846
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:29,460
the subject got into what I you what I

847
00:38:34,610 --> 00:38:32,370
do it normally somehow turns into that

848
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:34,620
I'm all over the internet people tend to

849
00:38:40,190 --> 00:38:37,920
like you know look up stuff so he just

850
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:40,200
knew something about me and he mentioned

851
00:38:45,020 --> 00:38:42,000
it and he's like listen you know I was

852
00:38:47,780 --> 00:38:45,030
out there with a friend of mine and this

853
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:47,790
is the same month as my sighting and he

854
00:38:50,660 --> 00:38:48,960
they were out there to thirty in the

855
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:50,670
morning because they fishing for bass at

856
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:52,710
night out there and this is a scary

857
00:38:56,570 --> 00:38:54,450
place to be in the daytime so I don't

858
00:38:59,480 --> 00:38:56,580
know minutes guys this guy's got some

859
00:39:00,440 --> 00:38:59,490
serious courage man and the thing is is

860
00:39:01,579 --> 00:39:00,450
he didn't know anything

861
00:39:03,710 --> 00:39:01,589
like this was going on out there but

862
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:03,720
they got screamed at this thing was

863
00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:05,520
running through the swamp and he said

864
00:39:09,890 --> 00:39:07,950
they could hear it coming and it

865
00:39:12,530 --> 00:39:09,900
screamed at him in it and this is a

866
00:39:14,780 --> 00:39:12,540
seasoned swamp cracker let me tell you

867
00:39:16,730 --> 00:39:14,790
something this guy here is a swamp

868
00:39:17,810 --> 00:39:16,740
cracker period I mean you're out there

869
00:39:19,790 --> 00:39:17,820
to thirty in the morning with a

870
00:39:22,910 --> 00:39:19,800
headlight on investigators and moccasins

871
00:39:25,069 --> 00:39:22,920
and all the stuff out there you are used

872
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:25,079
to being out there and he said that he'd

873
00:39:28,819 --> 00:39:26,400
never heard anything like it in his life

874
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:28,829
and it scared him to death he actually

875
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:30,510
back out of the area when to his truck

876
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:32,880
got the spotlight and apparently his

877
00:39:37,630 --> 00:39:35,250
partner was about 50 to 75 yards away

878
00:39:41,210 --> 00:39:37,640
and just curled up in the fetal position

879
00:39:43,069 --> 00:39:41,220
these are like experienced Florida

880
00:39:45,410 --> 00:39:43,079
woodsman and you know I mean I look at

881
00:39:47,780 --> 00:39:45,420
the situation like you know he's still

882
00:39:50,810 --> 00:39:47,790
out there I mean today I found six or

883
00:39:53,410 --> 00:39:50,820
seven tracks and you know I'm having

884
00:39:56,420 --> 00:39:53,420
some technical difficulties right now

885
00:40:01,819 --> 00:39:56,430
with any of my equipment that connects

886
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:01,829
to or has Wi-Fi linkage whenever I go

887
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,839
out the film I'm having a difficulty out

888
00:40:08,839 --> 00:40:05,520
in this area getting my equipment to

889
00:40:11,540 --> 00:40:08,849
work but um you know yeah man listen to

890
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:11,550
the physical morphology you were you

891
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:14,730
were telling me at the break about what

892
00:40:19,790 --> 00:40:16,530
you saw and I couldn't group see more oh

893
00:40:22,849 --> 00:40:19,800
hey and you know what mark I was

894
00:40:27,319 --> 00:40:22,859
listening to the way you were describing

895
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:27,329
Barry Sanders excuse me and i think the

896
00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:29,910
real strength of these creatures is in

897
00:40:34,220 --> 00:40:31,980
their toes they've got to have

898
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:34,230
incredible spring I mean that the

899
00:40:40,099 --> 00:40:36,510
muscles in their foot and their toes has

900
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:40,109
to be incredible so ya know I could

901
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:43,650
agree anymore I I saw him land when he

902
00:40:48,559 --> 00:40:46,530
landed yeah when he flying across the

903
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:48,569
trail I thought he's gonna there's no

904
00:40:53,930 --> 00:40:50,910
way it just didn't make any sense how he

905
00:40:55,370 --> 00:40:53,940
landed it was it didn't make a sound it

906
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:55,380
was like you know how you land on your

907
00:40:59,450 --> 00:40:57,119
toes when you jump in you're trying not

908
00:41:02,079 --> 00:40:59,460
to make a noise right yeah exactly yeah

909
00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:02,089
but he did that from 27 to 30 feet and

910
00:41:07,220 --> 00:41:05,369
yeah at least seven feet in the air well

911
00:41:10,130 --> 00:41:07,230
at the arc because he was five feet in

912
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,140
the air coming down it was incredible it

913
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:12,480
was absolutely incredible and you know

914
00:41:16,460 --> 00:41:13,920
it sounds crazy

915
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:16,470
oh I'm aware of that I'm fully aware

916
00:41:21,470 --> 00:41:19,170
that this sounds crazy but I mean I know

917
00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:21,480
what I saw no wasn't tell me I didn't

918
00:41:27,020 --> 00:41:24,150
see that oh I watch this uh i watch this

919
00:41:33,220 --> 00:41:27,030
creature run down the river through the

920
00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:33,230
willow trees and it was you know it was

921
00:41:39,410 --> 00:41:36,000
poetry in motion I mean it was graceful

922
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,420
it was I mean you watch a deer or an elk

923
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:41,760
or any of those animals even a mountain

924
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:44,640
lion they're graceful they're in their

925
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:46,290
environment and they are conditioned to

926
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:48,960
it and so was this creature it was his

927
00:41:55,250 --> 00:41:52,079
environment and he is conditioned into

928
00:41:57,140 --> 00:41:55,260
it that's for sure yes so that's the

929
00:41:59,289 --> 00:41:57,150
feeling I got as well and you know I get

930
00:42:03,170 --> 00:41:59,299
that feeling every time I'm in the area

931
00:42:06,170 --> 00:42:03,180
you know I mean I look at I find signs

932
00:42:09,289 --> 00:42:06,180
of passing almost every time I'm there

933
00:42:10,849 --> 00:42:09,299
and now I'm finding in those signs you

934
00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:10,859
know I take time to carefully consider

935
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:14,400
where I find the tracks well you know

936
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:16,650
finding intelligence in those tracks

937
00:42:20,569 --> 00:42:18,210
because you know I'm finally Earl

938
00:42:23,210 --> 00:42:20,579
occasion where there's turns in the

939
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:23,220
trail and the tracks will be on the

940
00:42:29,299 --> 00:42:25,650
outside of the trial so that he can

941
00:42:32,089 --> 00:42:29,309
clear a corner or he goes around in this

942
00:42:33,950 --> 00:42:32,099
place is heavily used by humans heavily

943
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:33,960
used at any given time when you're out

944
00:42:38,420 --> 00:42:36,569
there even at night there's 10 to 15

945
00:42:40,569 --> 00:42:38,430
people in this area and in the daytime

946
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:40,579
there can be up to 35 or 40 people

947
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:42,960
hunting and shooting and doing all kind

948
00:42:46,849 --> 00:42:44,880
of stuff and he's just right there in

949
00:42:48,650 --> 00:42:46,859
the middle of it and I can see his track

950
00:42:51,319 --> 00:42:48,660
we were out there last weekend and we

951
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:51,329
went to go to the recreation of what

952
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:54,240
happened for a little a little brief

953
00:43:00,289 --> 00:42:56,160
documentary for a website on building

954
00:43:02,299 --> 00:43:00,299
and you know I've you know found this

955
00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:02,309
track but there were there were guys

956
00:43:08,450 --> 00:43:04,260
with hunting dogs running all through

957
00:43:11,059 --> 00:43:08,460
this area so you got extreme heavy use

958
00:43:13,220 --> 00:43:11,069
by humans in this wildlife area and he

959
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:13,230
does not mind it because that day we

960
00:43:16,579 --> 00:43:15,119
found a track where he was right on the

961
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:16,589
same trail as the dogs and it was a

962
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:18,930
fresh track it wasn't dry out at all and

963
00:43:23,900 --> 00:43:20,400
it hadn't rained so I know it was from

964
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:23,910
that morning hmm I i well you know keep

965
00:43:26,420 --> 00:43:26,130
in mind and this is strictly my opinion

966
00:43:31,309 --> 00:43:26,430
but

967
00:43:33,980 --> 00:43:31,319
we are playing in his backyard and it's

968
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:33,990
his environment it and even though like

969
00:43:39,380 --> 00:43:36,450
you say there's heavy heavy use by

970
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:39,390
humans he's adapted to it he knows how

971
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:41,280
to handle this he solved the problem

972
00:43:45,020 --> 00:43:43,410
let's put it that way if he doesn't want

973
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:45,030
to be seen he's not going to be seen and

974
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:46,650
when he is seeing it may be purely

975
00:43:50,690 --> 00:43:48,930
accidental at least mine well that's

976
00:43:53,210 --> 00:43:50,700
definitely that's definitely what happen

977
00:43:55,130 --> 00:43:53,220
with me I mean I looked at you know all

978
00:43:56,900 --> 00:43:55,140
everything that contributed to me having

979
00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:56,910
that sighting and I got to tell you if I

980
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:58,890
had not brushed my teeth that morning I

981
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:01,200
remember if I did if I did burst my

982
00:44:05,210 --> 00:44:03,450
teeth if I hadn't stirred my coffee yeah

983
00:44:07,220 --> 00:44:05,220
I wouldn't have stopped at that red

984
00:44:10,220 --> 00:44:07,230
light if I know there are a million

985
00:44:12,380 --> 00:44:10,230
things that took me that exact second or

986
00:44:14,059 --> 00:44:12,390
those two seconds to where I was on that

987
00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:14,069
trail and looked up when of guns were

988
00:44:18,740 --> 00:44:15,960
going off and I saw him flying across

989
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:18,750
trail I look at that and it's you know

990
00:44:22,099 --> 00:44:20,490
it was purely accidental he was not

991
00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:22,109
aware of us we had put him in a choke

992
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:24,240
point between right here like a tween

993
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:26,930
lumps in the hunters and it's my opinion

994
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:30,089
now based on what I'm finding in this

995
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:34,490
research area in this area that he views

996
00:44:40,220 --> 00:44:37,890
just from what I'm finding he fully

997
00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:40,230
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